Anyone else notice the similarities between Nocturnal and Ann Rice?

Posted June 3rd, 2008 by Butiobait

NOCTURNAL

I mean the FDO has always poo-pooed vampires and such, and I know he explains everything with his X, Y, Zed shit, but come on! Immortals living in the catacombs, being told they don't have to live in the filth and shadows to hunt on the humans above by a new 'leader' who tells them to clean themselves up is straight out of 'Lestat.' Am I the only one to notice this or am I whacked?

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I agree with JP. To be very

On June 14th, 2008 (17:58 GMT) Jo Ann says:

I agree with JP. To be very honest no I didn't think that Nocturnal has reminded my of Anne Rice's work. You can read any story and find something like it in another book if that is what you are looking for.

Witch series

On June 6th, 2008 (06:08 GMT) Shadygirl says:

I read all of the vampire books and the witch series too. I think the vampire series is much better. I stuck it out through the witch series because I had read one of the last ones years before and I thought it was pretty good. After going through all of them, I must say she really does get lost in the weeds. I think you could take out about half of each book and not lose any real story. I really agree with Butiobait about the vampire series losing steam. I did really enjoy "The Tale of the Body Thief" and "Memnoch the Devil", but the books that followed really lost something. I won't give anything away in case you do want to read the series, but something happens to Lestat in Memnoch. As a result, he does not really play much of a role in several of the following books. When he does show up again, a lot of the edge that really made him a fun character for me just wasn't there anymore. Anyway, that is my two cents worth. Take it for what you will.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

Me too.

On June 6th, 2008 (04:25 GMT) JP says:

I'd recommend the vampire series, but completely agree with Butiobait. Rice is a very different kind of storyteller than Sigler. Some of the vampire books hold you from start to finish, while others really slow down. I was in the same boat with Butiobait (like that?--tracks with your picture Butiobait!), finding I continued to read a few of them to find out how they'd tie in and end. My personal opinion is that Rice gets way too bogged down in the backstory, context, etc. She gets lost there sometimes. Definitely worth picking up the first of the series at the library and checking it out though. If you want to pay for books, there are others I'd recommend going after first.

Shadygirl can comment smartly on Rices other series about the witches.

- Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant! (May faulty logic undermine your entire philosophy!)

Recommend? Yeah, sure...

On June 5th, 2008 (19:10 GMT) Butiobait says:

'The Vampire Lestat" (#2) is a good book, and well as "Interview with a Vampire" (#1) (Yeah JP, I did read alla them...).

"The Vampire Armand" (#3) looses some of the steam, but since one has followed the characters thus far, it is still somewhat compelling. However, by the time one makes it to "Queen of the Damned." (#4) the whole thing has gone downhill fast, and I personally felt that the only reason I was continuing to read it was to find out what the final outcome was (not really worth the effort).

Shadygirl, I think you are dead on in your assessment. Exploring these differences was the reason I started this thread.

thanx

On June 6th, 2008 (20:31 GMT) rivarij99 says:

thanx ya'll-- i'm starting with interview with a vampire, so far it's pretty hip.ΔΔΔJust because I kiss the prettiest girls and drive my truck too fast, why does everbody want to kick my ass

recommend?

On June 5th, 2008 (16:13 GMT) rivarij99 says:

JP and Butio>> would either of you recommend any of anne rice's work thanxΔΔΔ Just becase I kiss the prettiest girls and drive my truck too fast, why does everbody want to kick my ass

I can see

On June 5th, 2008 (07:54 GMT) Shadygirl says:

I can see some minor similarities, but I am with JP. I think they are very minor. With the vampire books, it was not all vampires that lived underground. It was just one sect of them that had a crazy leader. They were not looking for any sort or savior. Lestat upset things when he showed up because he knew nothing about the others and they thought what he was doing was blasphemous. They did not want to live on the surface. In the end, they did learn that they could, but the entire situation seems very different to me. It sounds like doing the stage adaptation would have been very interesting.

A cowgirl is a woman with guts and a horse.

That sounds interesting!

On June 5th, 2008 (04:30 GMT) JP says:

Pretty cool gig. Lestat was one messed up dude. It wasn't clear to me if you've powered through the entire series or not, but it becomes very clear why he's such a disaster. I honestly think you're on target with the familiarity of the story (8 times a week!!!) and as a result, seeing strong themes from that book in other works. (8 times a week!!!) It's kind of like my problem with Fletch and the Blues Brothers. I worked in a movie theater for years and saw both these movies A LOT. Now, I see opportunities all the time to relate things to them. Of course, that lets me laugh at a lot of things, but sadly, I know most other folks won't get the connection that happened in my mind. Just too familiar with the stories...

- Prospice tibi--ut Gallia, to quoque in tres partes dividaris.

Fair enough...

On June 4th, 2008 (21:31 GMT) Butiobait says:

I work backstage at the theatre, and a year or two ago I was working on the stage adaptation of 'Lestat'.

One could take the song from that production that Lestat sings to the night children and have Rex sing it to the nocturnals, and it would fit seamlessly into context.

Perhaps I'm remembering that production (which closed within a month after opening on Broadway) more than the books themselves, when one is subjected to the retelling of a story eight times a week for several weeks, things start to blur, and the final stage product was certainly different from the original text (novel).

Actually...

On June 4th, 2008 (20:29 GMT) JP says:

My wife and I read the series of books in the last year. I don't disagree that there are similarities, but they're only surface. I think you see more there than there is. But the cool thing is we can agree to disagree on this point. You read it for work? Gotta ask--what do you do?

- Prospice tibi--ut Gallia, to quoque in tres partes dividaris.

Well, that's one vote for "whacked"

On June 4th, 2008 (19:22 GMT) Butiobait says:

but seriously, if you haven't read Lestat in the last decade, (I'm a little ashamed to admit that I have, but it was for work, if you can believe it) there is a similar thread there...

Wrong

On June 4th, 2008 (03:13 GMT) JP says:

Come on, you sound like you're just looking for a reason to pick on the author or story. Historians talk about hermits and monks being reclusive and even living in caves and catacombs. I guess Sig's copying them as well. Anne Rice wasn't the first to write about vampires, so I guess she's even more guilty and deserving of your criticism--and she's actually writing about vampires, not just some other form of nocturnal creature. Sigler never suggests these are vampires. Sharing a theme or element within a story doesn't equate to "straight out of..." If you don't like it, don't listen.

- Prospice tibi--ut Gallia, to quoque in tres partes dividaris.

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Anyone else notice the similarities between Nocturnal and Ann Rice?

I agree with JP. To be very

Witch series

Me too.

Recommend? Yeah, sure...

thanx

recommend?

I can see

That sounds interesting!

Fair enough...

Actually...

Well, that's one vote for "whacked"

Wrong

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