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Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

This seems to be a hot topic and it didn't have it's own thread yet, so I'm starting one. Scott initially posited the idea on the Thanksgiving Goreline episode and there are several voice mails regarding the issue at the end of Nocturnal 38. There are also quite a few replies to the Goreline post in that thread. It seemed much more appropriate for it to have it's own thread however. Also, for a project of this magnitude, Scott can certainly use *all* the feedback he can get. So sound off junkies!!

To recap the basic rationale:

  • Scott's been contacted by numerous teachers asking him if he'd be willing to re-write The Rookie and remove the foul language, yet leave the plot intact.
  • Educators want to use it for kids who are reading challenged because the content is so much more interesting than the other stuff they have to work with

So what Scott wants your feedback on is should he: A) Leave The Rookie as is B) create a separate youth version or C) change the whole book so there's only one version that is safe for all ages.

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wallerdad
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

  If it will get the kids reading, im all for a youth version of the Rookie, when they get older they'll buy the adult version also.

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Parp555
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

The rookie could be considered, at its core, a great underdog story about a man from a backwater mining colony who overcame his racism and helped lead his team against all odds to a championship. Don't forget the messages about teamwork 

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SynapticJam
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

Isn't the Rookie all about racial, uh, I mean special equality?  Schools eat that crap up!  Make it kid friendly, push the different races getting along angle, and you'll have schools making it required reading!  Sell them books!!! 

 

Yeah... that's what our educational system needs!  Textbooks written by the FDO!  They're getting indoctrinated already, why not indoctrinate them into Siglerism!

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The_Supreme_Narutard
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

the youth of the nation needs some of that alien football madness! It would sweep the charts, I tell you!

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Indie_slayer
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?
Hell yer go for it, if thats why you want a clean version of the novel get it out there. Like others say school love the idea of people getting over there race and and bring equality. It would be good at getting your name out there, But dont forget you still need to original
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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

I think it might be a good idea, but. Kids already talk like this. I know I did.

But I guess if it keeps the same tone and story then why not go for the young.

 

I also find it interesting that people are afraid of the words but not the extreme violence. WTF is wrong with people? 

 

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mgcady
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

There's something wrong about having a pro-sport story written by the FDO with no swearing and cleared up, but that's the YA publishing world for you...

But, it's really cool that Scott's been contacted for this.  Promoting literacy is really cool- and it is a chance to get Baby Junkies while they're young.... And perhaps get some parents into the FDO's Revolution too.

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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

As long as the majority of the storyline stays intact, why not?

 

Hell, it worked for the 2 Live Crew... :P


 

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Crash
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

Honestly nothing wrong with it.. unless of course you start writing about some pansey wizard school... then we got problems.

 

football is big businewss, and not many fiction books handle it the way you did.  And kids are good.. and junk...

 

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gmanvsfreeman
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

I definatly have friends that will love this and get their first dose of siglerism because my school library doesn't have INfected yet. The rookie will be great for classrooms and schools.

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Shamakath
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

 Definitely 2 version, I'm all for the kids reading Sigler but I need my violence, bloodand swearing.

 

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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

do both, obvious reasons
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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?
I've decided to publish THE ROOKIE in hardcover, with eight color plates inside showing aliens and team logos, but go with the "cleaner" version. All the feedback I'm getting is telling me people would love that. While the die-hard audience would like the original version, it seems you all would also accept a cleaner version. Basically, I'm just changing swear words, not any part of the plot. So, I can satisfy most of my existing fan base, yet sell a great story to kids that like scifi, sports, or escapism in general. If it gets kids to read, it's worth it.
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?
OPTION A ALL THE WAY!
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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

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n8man
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

The cussing isnt really neccesary, and it'll spread your greatness to a larger auidience.
When will it be out?
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gmanvsfreeman
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

can't wait to read the clean version.

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NurseKayla
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

He says he hates to read but loves comic books. This might just help all of us frustrated mothers.

This won't hurt a bit.

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I_AM---
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

I work in schools as well as some of the People you have talked to.

 

for High School students what they hear in the hallway of their schools is way beyond what is in

this book.

 

in my experience kids will not like a watered down book. The kids I work with, tend to look for

most shocking book that will cause some of their teachers or parents to have a heart attack. 

Hell when I was in school we used to sneak books out that had anything to do with sex or swearing.

 

I give the kids the titles of books and if they can get them in the public library they do.

 

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mgcady
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

IIRC, YA isn't for high schoolers.  And while I know that kids can have a dirtier vocabulary than a sheltered nun, to get it published for younger readers that shit isn't going to fly.

 

And it's not like they can't read the YA version, then go online and find the regular version.  But, getting it published in another format means that our dear FDO can get new recruits.

 

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DrunkenGamer
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

If kids are anything like I was, those who are likely to enjoy this type of story probably don't read much youth-oriented fiction anyway.  I'm also opposed to the child-friendly bubble-wrapping of society on general principle.

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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

I don't know if I am agreeing to the right thing but, I have read a YA book called King Dork that is very funny and has some foul-mouthyness *sp*. A quote from the book is something like this.

"Fucking bitch."

 Iwas appaled at what Sam said. He hardly ever swore. He got caught by the jocks saying crotch instead of balls and got swirlies for a week.

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Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?
I think a kid friendly version would be good for schools, definitely. ...as long as you publish an original for the hardcore junkies... When can we expect the release?
Glisson
Re: Should there different (or youth) version of The Rookie?

  I'm stoked about the idea of a YA version for kids.  My son hears me talk about Scott Sigler and explaing to people about my Krakens jersey and wants to read this book but it is just a bit much for a 10  yr old.  Both my kids and all my friends know that Scott Sigler is my favorite author and my son just wants to be a part of that fun too.  If this gets made I can see me buying the boy a jersey too!  I need a copy of this and Ncternal for the shrine.

 

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