CaptainThanard
Infodumps

Sigler-

Yeah, I love your stuff. Great stories, and all that. But what's with your infodumps? I mean, do you get off on pretending you're the grand-geek-overlord when you write those things?

Listening to the last few chapters of Infected really pushed me over the edge, but I've been noticing it in all your stories. Usually, I just cringe and suffer as you regurgitate Wikipedia, and wait for the story to continue on, but no longer. Probably the best example I can come up with was when you taught your audience the difference between the XX and the XY in the early Nocturnal chapters. Maybe not everyone knows, but the great thing about using real science is that if your listeners are interested, they can check this stuff out for themselves. I know you spend time doing research into the science you write about and it shows. I think it would still show if you didn't explain it to us as if we were in the third grade, though.

Your explanation of the seeds in the most recent Infected was an quite an extensive Infodump, and in a couple minutes, I was checking my watch, hoping that it would soon end. No, I did not know that the scientific name for a hair mite was "Demodex folliculorum". I didn't know that enzymes which targeted proteins were called "proteases". I didn't even know that there was a name ("radicle") for the root of a seed. What I do know, though, was that I spent a very boring eight minutes learning this. All you needed to say was "There were millions of seeds. Most died. A few landed on some guy. Using his body for food, they started growing."

Congratulations, Sigler. You've taught me that even real science can be used as technobabble.

 

Don't let this damage your ego in any way, though. I'm still passing around my copy of Ancestor between friends and family while waiting desperately for my next fix.

Wolf
Re: Infodumps

You wouldn't read a murder-mystery and not expect both a murder and a mystery. Same with science fiction. Without the science, it's just fiction. If you don't want science in your fiction, read Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings.

I consider the science to be just as important to the story as any character. It's not just knowing what, but how and why.

 

"Just shut the fuck up and do yer job, asshole!"

 

treed
Re: Infodumps

ya need the science in scifi

especially if the story is BASED on that science, look at crighton's (sp) work, jurasic park, prey (good gawd that was good scifi horror story), next. and he JAM PACKS the science in his stories, not just a little explanation

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SynapticJam
Re: Infodumps

When the sigler decides to post, he sure goes all out doesn't he...   

 

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treed
Re: Infodumps

but then it does make for good drama

and we get to see deeper into the mind of sigler (DAMN HIMN)

 

mmmm, now is that a good thing??

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wallerdad
Re: Infodumps

I agree, the Science in the re-write is really interesting, must be in the book.

BTW..I've read all of the Harry Potter books and I'm re-reading the Lord of the Rings book right now.

 

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ogreoregon
Re: Infodumps

 You see the chef, the chef shows you: the pile of ingedients, some familiar some not; the shelves full of dusty boxes of ....?  You see the stove with lots of cooking surfaces, he shows you his collection of kitchen knives.Then he shows you the bubbling pots and you smell the aroma of something so delicious, you can't wait for a taste!  The Chef dips into the boiling pot and holds the spoon to your lips.  You taste....... ahhhh!  The chef knows how to entice.  He can create a masterpiece using all the things you saw as you walked through  the kitchen,  but you would never have imagined what he was going to create with them. 

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