Scott wants to know what you think of partial sound effects in Episode #1 of NOCTURNAL. Give your opinion here. Does it work? Do you need more? Would the story be better off with no sound effects at all?
Hey! I gotta say in the Rookie, the ambient crowd noise you used was awesome. The time slowing down was great. Just gotta keep it flowing with the story. In the Rookie and other Podcast novels like Jack Palms II I noticed when sound effects were used at key points it really made the story "pop" but later in Jack Palms II the sound effects kept comming over and over and it just made me think it was over done. It lost it's touch. I didn't feel that way with the rookie, so somewhere in there you find a balance. Saving it for key moments and using it far between gives it the needed punch I think it deserves. Also your voice acting is key, you bring alot to your stories with your voice and the voice mods you apply keep that up. It always gets me into the characters =) Peace out and love the new book!
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I didn't read everyone elses comments, so sorry if I repeat what someone else said previously and more poorly. First, let me get my basics out of the way. Been with you since Earthcore Episode 10 and there since. I really appreciate what you do and the price it costs me. But sound fx... I hated the effect on Perry. I thought it was on purpose because you were going to morph it into something later on in the story but it didn't and it was horrible. He sounded like a shitty Sci-fi channel movie monster. That said, the stuff you did with the voices in Rookie was great. But then the guns in that last joint that I can't think of the name for (transporter or something) got redundant and made me want to punch you. I say nay unless you have someone else working on it that has the time and experience to do effects for everything. You have enough shit to do and when things start repeating or when voices are so horribly tweaked your ears atart to have minor hemmoraging it completely removes the listener from the story. That's my piece. BUt what do I know? I listen to Scott Sigler.
I love the enhanced production! Keep up the great work! Shmoo ______________________________________________________________________________________________ A good Wizard knows it is useless to waggle fingers and shout in ancient tongues, when a good club will do.
A good Wizard knows it is useless to waggle fingers and shout in ancient tongues, when a good club will do.
Scott, the partial sound effect adds an awesome dimension to your stories. In infection when I heard the VOICES I thought I was going ape-shit insane. The Rookie and Now Nocturnal the sound effects are sweet. LESS IS MORE! The gunshots ring out and startle me which is awesome. But I don't want to hear birds flapping or ambient needless traffic noise or any other shit like that. I still have trouble using metal scissors... You've scarred me, my friend.
I love the SFx you are doing. It adds to the audio experience. What I like best is that you use them to convay the story and not just to prove you know how to use a sound lab. Great Work, Keep it Up. Thermonuclearpenguin Think Like A Mob. Though you may be one you are powerful, take that power and change the world.
Think Like A Mob. Though you may be one you are powerful, take that power and change the world.
I already mentioned this in a voice mail, but I feel like repeating myself here... 'cause I can. Having sound effects is great, but moderation is key. I felt there were too many in Nocturnal #1 and 2 (although that did not detract from the fact that Nocturnal 1 and 2 were [i]awesome[/i]!). You don't need an effect for [i]every[/i] gun blast, for example, just the one that hits its mark and rips a large hole in a door or someone's chest. You don't need to have a background of the kid sobbing while you describe the scene--just do a vicious loud "crack!" for the breaking of the bone, then put some sob in your voice at the beginning and end of all the kid's lines for the rest of that scene. -- Furry cows moo and decompress.
Furry cows moo and decompress.
Don't overdo the special effects, then they're great. Which is to say, keep it the way it is. Very cool. As I said before, this podcast has the best production quality of any and all podcast novels, by far. The only thing missing is a good female voice... j/k They are not vampires, werewolves, zombies, ghosts, goblins or human cannibals. They are something more, something far more insidious than all of the above ... They're the Spanish Inquisition!! Nobody would expect that!
Re: Partial Sound FX?
Love your stuff, Scott... thanks for letting me listen! =1 I have to say I enjoy the occasional effect... crowd noises in backgrounds, maybe a gunshot when appropriate can make me jump out of my seat (for example, The Failed Cities Monologues nails it just right.) One thing I found annoying was the stereo effects you did on The Passenger... most of the time I only listen to my pod with one earbud in, while I work, so I can hear the phone ring, etc. I would have to give my vote as nay for effects like this in the future, as effective as they may have been. Keep spoken word mono, music stereo. - kokodhem
Scott, great job at the sound effects. It makes the story even more scary. I never heard the soud of the arm breaking. I chickened out and turned the volume of my radio down when I heard it coming. Please leave it the way it is now. I think that more effects will not make it better. It can't be better than it is right now !
WTFO Sigler, what's this about "partial" sound effects? Sounds about as half-assed as your supposedly "weekly" podcasts. Or is that "weak-ly" podcasts? Don't get me wrong, I like what you've done with the sound--just as I like getting my fix. But what's with this stringing us out crap? What, you don't think we can take the "full" sound effects? Is it just you wimping out on us again, or are you hero-worshiping Marquee de Sad--giving us only enough to keep the pain exquisite and not overwhelming? I listen to this junk on my way to/from work, so the sound effects have to compete with city traffic without getting me into an accident. For me, I need you to turn it up a notch (unless that means you'll be late, again, with my fix). Of course, I may have had too much bad junk lately, overdoing the J.C. Hutchins while waiting for the good Sigler stuff. Too bad the iPod doesn't emulate olfactory effects...
Hey Scott! Loving the book so far (but then, I am a dirty dirty junkie). On the sfx, I think its a question of balance. Too many of them and its distracting. I like your straight reads but i think the partial sfx can work very well. Maybe use about 85% of the number you used in episode one so that when you do use them they have a bit more punch! Oh and please please see if you can find a chicken scissors sound effect! Your loyal Irish Junkie, Stephen K
Stephen 'The Breeder' Kilbride
Just right, nice addition. Using Google Maps?! BRILLIANT!!! When Pierre lands on the dumpster I choked on my coffee the first time I heard it, and when Sam the NARC screams while Johhny is on the phone makes me burst out laughing everytime. This is the gooood shit!
Uhmmm... Yeah, the Addition of Partial Sound Effects, is perfect, as long as it is not overdone. sounds of steps, the occassional whispering or screaming in the background, or the loud thunderous bang, boom or pop brings an acute sense of living in the moment. It pretty much makes the listener jump out of his skin for a split second and that's all it takes, for the listener to say, "OH SHIT" and look across a few aisles of seats on a commuter train and see another commuter starin' at him/her with a strange look on their face, wonderin' what the hell you could be listening to.... And of course, you pity them because they can't enjoy what you have... ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa. ( oh sorry ... lost track there) So gettin' back to SFX .... Yes .... I say ... but don't over do it. Frikshun
DAMN YOUR EYES!! I have NEVER missed a week's episode. NEVER! Hugo Chavez is in charge of my Ministry of Recordkeeping, and he says we've always been on time and always will be on time. Hugo also asks that you stop manipulating the media and turning my people against me.