lundberry
is Brian really the king?
After listening to episode 22 I am almost wondering if this isn't a set up for us to find out that Brian is really the king.  Think about it he has the exact same dreams where he wakes up with the cock of steel going.  One of the things that also indicates that for me is that he is able to take out the Saviour which tells me that he is able to do more than Rex ever could.  I think that it is too convenient for Rex to be the king.  Where as we have been given information that really does lean towards Brian being the king.
SynapticJam
Re: is Brian really the king?

Do you really think Pookie will bend that far? His moral compass would have to drastically skew to allow that. And what about Mommy? What happens with her? Pookie and Bryan won't let her continue her steady diet of homeless bums and people of ethnic descent...  

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Re: is Brian really the king?
You're making what could be an important point depending on how the story continues past this book. It's so obvious that often slips past my attention --the genetic link with this entire "family" runs through the mother, not through a common father. Marie is the key. If she's a freak of nature, rather than the product of some other mixed breeding between a more human Nocturnal (e.g. Rex or Brian) and a fully-human female that produces a female child with the zed chromosome...the story has to start and end with Marie. At least the story as we know it. If something happened to her though, it would be interesting to see what follows with the surviving hive. Thoughts?

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treed
Re: is Brian really the king?

-they might continue to live, but their way of life will change, no more baby noct's, they may reproduce, but without any outside, new dna, their offspring will begin to degenerate fast, and even so, their dna becomes more diluted
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DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
Re: is Brian really the king?

...the autopsy of Mark Gastono. the machete Nocturnal. Some of them might not be able to reproduce even if they wanted to. I hope not of the Nocturnal think of in-vitro procedures.

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treed
Re: is Brian really the king?

-and can they even reproduce??
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SynapticJam
Re: is Brian really the king?

There are a lot of unanswered questions here.  The hives complete and total reliance on Marie appears to be inviolate.  I'm going to have to listen to 1st born's thoughts on the existence of the "kings" again.  They were created as a legend to give the nocturnals hope.  But then where did they start coming from... and with genetic markers to lead/rule.  Rather interesting, really.  Can't wait to see how it all pans out... 

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Re: is Brian really the king?

Maybe they can reproduce, and that's why first born wants to be rid of them.  Of course, what would the progeny be?  And if they've been doing this for awhile, wouldn't there already be a bunch of "princes" running around? 

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Re: is Brian really the king?

-the HUMAN nocturnals with Savior like abilities "Smell" different. hence the "King" fullfillment issue. there was after all that "Earlier" KING fiasco that hillary wasn't around yet to witness. AH, life in the hive. happy happy joy joy.
anyways, ya'll know my position on the KING/SAVIOR issue.
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Re: is Brian really the king?

...is one of the oldest and greatest killer of micro-organisms known to mankind. Silver is increasing use in wounds and with V.A.C. therapy. V.A.C. therapy is Vacuum Assisted Closure. It closes wound three to five times faster than normal. even wounds that normally do not close on there one. For more info Google. I S.C. for the company that has the patent on it. At least for a few more years.

 Stone Mason suggested*I think* that some organism had the potential to WILLING change their bodies. At least on the cellular level. It would not be long they could start to effect the tissue level. The older the Nocturnals with the Blessings, the more evolved they could be come...

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Butiobait
Re: is Brian really the king?
Yeah Talon1701, I'm thinking the same thing, Brian and Savior are brothers, after-all... So Savior (or his 'father') has to be one of Marie's kids.  Savior ain't long for this world, Brian is the only one to defeat him, he's getting in good with the feltchers... er... fletchers.  Yeah, Brian gets the big scary house on California St.
JP
Re: is Brian really the king?
if this is the way it plays out, they'd start to mutate and produce deformities in their offspring. Ugly deformities like when cousins from West Virginia get married--dim-witted kids, and some with snake heads and fur...wait a minute...!

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SynapticJam
Re: is Brian really the king?

What if somehow Savior was a disaffected Nocturnal who ended up in Mommy's love nest, then had to take the groom walk, but actually escaped, and his "seed" begat the kings Rex and Bryan...  ungh.  I know it's full of holes, but imagine what that would mean.  You think Aggie has some nightmares... imagine surviving the "mounting" and then actually getting away... 

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Re: is Brian really the king?
Mc B. Pookie has already had Mommy, they dated in high school he did her lovely!
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teak
Re: is Brian really the king?
Brian is going to have to decide whether he wants to become the new Savior or take over leadership of the nocturnals.......hmmm
DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
Re: is Brian really the king?

...keep his sanity before he can do that. Hell, he really can do anything he wants. Just as long Pookie does not die until Nocturnals: Book II. Or Book 11. What ever works for the FDO*rtm*.

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SynapticJam
Re: is Brian really the king?

No choice...  exterminate the nocturnals baby...  Besides, if they kill mommy....  no more nocturnals... 

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Re: is Brian really the king?

If Rex or Bryan could have kids what would the kids look like? And what could the kids do that wasn't normal??? 

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LeashedFreak
Re: is Brian really the king?
The King is a nocturnal that is capable of reproducing with mommy and other humans to make normal superstrong nocturnals/humans. I guess these is what is implied when they say that the King will come to free them and let them roam on th world above. Yes, Hillary has "safed" many of "possible Kings", one of these was Gastano, but he turned out to be sterile and unable to reproduce....so..so as far we only know of three possible kings...the First King and now Brian and Rex....and mommy is the one who makes the saviour and the king..the saviour is the good and the king is the evil....that is why saviour kills the nocturnal...this brings about the classic good vrs evil dilema...i think brian will become the saviour and rex the king...... LeashedFreak

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DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
Re: is Brian really the king?

 So far there has been no mention of a Nocturnals reproducing with Mommy. There has been no mention of Marco"The Machete" being a King. It was stated he was a Ring for a human working top side/above ground for his Nocturnal brothers and sisters.

 I am going to listen to all the episodes again this weekend to x4 this. If I am wrong I will reply back to say so.

 Besides, the FDO can always change the story however he wants before it goes to print.

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Re: is Brian really the king?

 

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treed
Re: is Brian really the king?

-the prophecy is a fake, the king is not "real"
what is real is the nocturnals BELIEVING they have a king and follow him blindly
bry bry is the end of mommy and the nocturnals will need to find a new way of life, those that survive,anyway, the end times that are a comin'
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SynapticJam
Re: is Brian really the king?

The prophecy is indeed fake.  It just happened to coincide with a genetic shift/mutation in the Nocturnals.  The "kings" like rex and bryan are indeed special.  As first born indicated when he had trouble resisting the compulsion to obey Rex.  What it really means in unknown as of this time.  We just have to wait.

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DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
Re: is Brian really the king?

...but if a group of people believe enough, want enough, Need enough, Consensual Reality can be bend to power of group's Faith. If only for a little time. They could have wished for a "King" and their collective wills help increases the chance of it happening. throw in the constant fears of the Savior to reinforce the belief and wallah. Stuff happens.

The Irishman from Ohio

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treed
Re: is Brian really the king?

-can make it seem true  and with the intervention of time and continued mutations, at least one offspring could appear to fullfill the false prophecy
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treed
Re: is Brian really the king?

-but i wonder if he is going to take the battle to them?? and exterminate the queen
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