- "I just did something involuntary. And messy." - Sid

It's not that women love "taken" men... it's that we love a challenge.

We like the challenge of wooing the eye of married man who shouldn't been looking, or the gay man that -- if he just got a piece of this cookie -- we know *we* could turn straight, or the bad boy we can make good by giving him a little bit of mothering, or the player that we can make monogamous.  

The challenge...that's the *real* attraction!

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Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! ~ Hoban "Wash" Washbourne - Firefly

I'm a happily married gay bad-ass playa, y'all!!! 

..No Bounce..

...No Play...

Then that means you're my soulmate!

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You two crack me up but I'll admit Gmork is correct,  It's all about the challenge!

"Well. I'll tell you what. You gonna kick it with me. Or I'm gonna kick you out. What you think of that?" Sister Mary Clarence 

Life is worthless without laughter. And you're probably significantly lighter now that you have no ass. Just be careful when you sit down. That padding does serve a purpose, you know ;)

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  You know those guys who think they're *so* good in bed that they can "cure" lesbians? That must be the way their brain is working. It never made sense to me before. 

  Huh. I wonder if this is symptomatic of myopia as a whole. Do you think the finest chef in the world would be egocentric enough to believe he could "cure" a vegetarian with a well prepared filet mignon? Things that make you go hmmmm.....

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No, no, no...
Much like the craft of acting, it's all about the motivation.  The vegetarian can't be swayed by the fine preparation of a meat dish because taste is not the motivation ... killing sweet, furry (albeit delicious) animals is the motivation.  So the "challenge" theory doesn't apply because it doesn't provide an answer to the true motivation behind the issue.

In the same sense, the situation of a man thinking he can "cure" a lesbian actually has nothing to do with "curing"...there are no altruistic motives... he really just wants to make it with two lesbians and f*ck the rest....literally. So the "challenge" isn't applicable here either because he motivation isn't a charitable notion to convince a lesbian of the benefits of enjoying schlongs..the motivation is to make use of that schlong with two chicks.

Of course this is just my humble opinion...let the debate begin...

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I love your very philosophical explanation.

"Well. I'll tell you what. You gonna kick it with me. Or I'm gonna kick you out. What you think of that?" Sister Mary Clarence 

- "I just did something involuntary. And messy." - Sid

Leave it to me to wax philosophical about schlongs, lesbians and vegetarianism

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- "I just did something involuntary. And messy." - Sid

How dare they take the last can....

I was actually making an obscure music reference, but didn't really expect anyone to get it ;)

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...so I will concede at the beginning that there is a good possibility that you are correct madam. Yet I cannot resist a good philosophical debate even if I'm only playing devil's advocate for shits and giggles. Hell, I picked up Philosophy as my second major in college because I 'accidentally' wound up with enough coursework to qualify for it.

<picks up gauntlet>

  That being said, let me counter point. I concur that vegetarians are most likely a red herring that do not compare in the same light. Your insight about motivation is probably correct on that front. I'd posit that some vegetarians don't eat meat for health or environmental reasons rather than "don't kill the cute cow" reasons, but it's still a totally different rationale.

  I disagree with you about the man who wants to cure a lesbian however. It's all about challenge. Whether his motivations are altruistic is irrelevant. I'm not sure how you got that out of my post, but that wasn't the 'type' of guy I was thinking of. Generally (yes, stereotyping here), the assholes who think that homosexuality is a choice are arrogant pricks who believe they are entitled to everything under the sun. And a lesbian is an affront to that belief. The prick in question must attempt to bed her as demonstrable proof of his dominance. He views it as an irresistable challenge.

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"They don't want to help you, they want to kill you!"

Man, I haven't heard that term in forever.  I think I will make it my goal to find an opportunity to throw out the term "wang" in my every day conversation....must get that back into my vocabulary!!!

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 Listened to any Wang Chung lately? Heehee!

“[No matter where you go, there you are] - And Sigler knows exactly where there is! ”

 Definitely obscure.

“[No matter where you go, there you are] - And Sigler knows exactly where there is! ”

I played the drums in middle school and through high school ... in my junior year I play symphony band, marching band and jazz band (go on and make your band geek jokes).  In jazz band, I got to play the drumset for a Wang Chung song... 'Everybody Have Fun Tonight'....while it wasn't jazz, it was a lot of fun to play... so I am forever linked to Wang Chung

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although introducing bunnies into the equation is a bit disturbing.....

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which means Gmork is a foxy lady who's XX rated? Works.

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Yes, from "Institutionalized." My best friend is a Pepsi fiend so that line is often quoted in our circle. I didn't think anyone would get that.

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