Mycroft
The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****

I'm going to start listing all the faults with the new movie, chime in with new ones (It isn't a short list).

 

1.  Romulans were not known by Kirk's time on sight (Reference, show "Balance of Terror")

2.  A ship of the Kelvin's apparent class was smaller then Enterprise.  Enterprise had a crew of 432 (Many shows).   How the heck did the Kelvin have 800+ crew?

3.  Families were not aboard Federation ships in Kirk's time, let alone his father's time.  (Farpoint, Picard's statements)

4.  Nero asked for Ambassador Sarek from the first captain, not Ambassador Spock.  Oops......

5.  Uhura was all business at the Academy - why in the ... would she throw herself at Spock after Vulcan imploded?

6.  Spock and Kirk marooned on a  planet within close viewing distance from Vulcan - but it was labeled Drago 4?  Oops - Vulcan was in the Tau Ceti system, so even if that was right, it would have been Tau Ceti 4.

7.  Spock was viewing up close the black holing of Vulcan - too close.  Another planet that close to a black hole would have gone right in....

8.  Romulas was wiped out by the nova - great, why wasn't the twin planet Remas wiped out with it?

9.  If the Vulcan Academy could see the nova coming in time to build a special ship, and develop black hole building science, then why didn't the Romulans see the nova coming (since they had equivalent tech) and evacuate the planet?

10.  If Nero had 25 years to wait for Spock (and 129 more beyond that) to wait for the nova, why didn't he just go prevent the wiping out of the Romulan people via the nova?

11.  The promotion of Kirk to First Officer.  Get off it, there is no way in .... that would have happened.

12.  Sulu was always an excellent pilot (considered best in the fleet more then once) - get off that dampner thing.

13.  Sulu using a sword on the drill - no, it is not a throw down to Star Wars.  It is an actual reference to Sulu (George Takai) using a foil in the first season of the original series, long before there was a Star Wars (10 years before).

14.  Why the ... was Ambassador Spock trying to fly the rescue craft to that star?  Logistically, it makes no sense, since he was already on Romulas at the time, still working for re-unification.  (Next Generation)

15. Manual targeting of the transporter?  Since when?

16. Water piping thru engineering on the Enterprise?  Huh, what was that for?  Just to make fun of Scotty, of course....

17.  Six ships wiped out at Vulcan in less then 5 minutes (that's how far behind the Enterprise was, according to the movie).

18.  Enterprise traveling without shields up?  Wrong, wrong, wrong.  So many times it was shown that shields were up to prevent strikes by object during warp flight.

19.  You get a distress call for an unkown reason and you go in weapons hot - always.  It is much easier to drop the weapons then get them powered up in time.  Sheesh....

20.  The green woman Kirk was making out with?  Tribute to the Orion slave girl of the first pilot, right?  Oops - Orions were never part of the Federation - see ("Journey to Babel") 

 

That's 20, good start for this topic.....

 

My guess is that the writers only looked at the previous movies and really didn't go look at the original series much.  They took the mistakes of the movies and magnified them in this movie.

 

I write this as an "ORIGINAL TREKKIE".  On Sept 8, 1966, I was watching the first showing, the great salt vampire ("Mantrap").  I participated in the letter writing campaign that brought the original series back for season three.  I know the canon of the show backwards and forwards, and the above list is just off the top of my head what was wrong with the movie.

 

Gene Roddenberry (I went to see him speak once, live) would be spinning in his grave, because this was not about the future he wanted to portray.

 

  • Sergeant and Fire Team Leader, X-ray company, DOMREC.
  • Twowire
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****
    The alternate timeline card works to fill in any inequities for the most part. The rest they expect you to take in stride. After all, when its said and done, It just Sci-Fiction Hollywood style.  :)
     
    "What the hell is happening? I blew up the building. Why? Because you made a phone call."


    KISS'd by Sigler
    . Honored recipient of the 2009 "Iron Man" Award.
    *Member of the Wolfpack* Funky Name Brotha, Gutter Brethren & Pusher Thrice Over!

    Mycroft
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****
  • The items I was quoting do NOT get answered by the timeline changes, that's the whole point.
  • Whomever wrote the plot did not have anywhere near the knowledge of the canon of ST to even hope to get it right. 
  • Sergeant and Fire Team Leader, X-ray company, DOMREC.  And now a pusher too!
  • Sergeant and Fire Team Leader, X-ray company, DOMREC.
  • Twowire
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****
    Thats why I said "for the most part". I went on to say that it is a work of FICTION & Hollywood, as always, has the option to bastadize or repackage most anything they want or can in the name of potential profits. Do you really think they care all that much about "canon"? Not that we all will like or agree with it, but thats show biz.
     
     
    "What the hell is happening? I blew up the building. Why? Because you made a phone call."


    KISS'd by Sigler
    . Honored recipient of the 2009 "Iron Man" Award.
    *Member of the Wolfpack* Funky Name Brotha, Gutter Brethren & Pusher Thrice Over!

    WildSeven
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****

    4 - Oh right like the whole killing Sarah Connor in Terminator thing. To stop John Connor from being born. Or what Marty McFly does by accident. But then fixes it.

    20 - The Orion thing was a bit stupid. Even leaving out the Nog example the Orions back then (i'm aware it's technically the future but you know what i mean) were still pirates and highly unlikely to even aspire to enrole in Starfleet. I don't think they thought about that too much

    5 - Spock would NEVER experience emotions like that intentionally. Unless maybe it was a mind meld.

    7 - I don't think the black holes in the film were real black holes. There were no tidal forces, no time dilation, no length contraction, no complete tearing apart of all atoms. Maybe it was something resembling a black hole. Also the first black hole seen transports things back in time, and with varying space-time trajectories, or with a varying time-coordinate anyway. It would also bypass the whole Chandrasekar Limit for stars. That'd still be a pretty bad explanation.

    18 - I agree. The warp bubble formed in ordinary space-time would surround the ship with a bubble of ordinary space-time while travelling through subspace, so the bubble of ordinary space-time goes to warp and just happens to drag the ship with it. Sort of like an instantaneous rest frame in relativity. Even if that didn't cover it and you wanted to talk about collision between the bubble and subspace matter that's what they have the deflector shields for.

    Captain Picard: Mister Crusher SHUT UP! Doctor, get this child off my bridge.

    Jules: Where you from? Guy: What?! Jules: "What?!"?! They speak English in "What?&quo

    Captain Picard: Mister Crusher SHUT UP! Doctor, get this child off my bridge.

    Mal: Well lady, I must say......you're my kinda stupid  UFS

     

    Zombiegeddon_58
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****

     with a tv budget its cheaper 2 make them humanoid

     

    ~~There are many types of heros, I am one who just happens to eat brains~`

    • Leader Of UNdead for Sigler

    ~~There are many types of heros, I am one who just happens to eat brains~~

    [flickr-photo:id=3725861718,size=m]

    Finaldrive
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****

    Trust anyone driving a 92 Ford Festiva.   

     

    Those things are dangerous.  DANGEROUSLY SEXY!!

     

    Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated I have no idea what I'm talking about.


    No power in the Verse can stop me.

    Finaldrive
    Re: The Trek Movie - spoiler alert****

    I feel like there is a lot of anger here.  Can't we all just hug and kiss like Spock and Ohura?  Its the sensible thing to do.   

     

    Disclaimer: Unless otherwise stated I have no idea what I'm talking about.


    No power in the Verse can stop me.

    Welcome Guest!
    | Register
    Empty
    19,222 Junkies | 1 Online Now