Scott
FDO™ needs research help for ANCESTOR

Junkies, I'll keep a running list of what I need here for ANCESTOR research. Reply in the comments below, or feel free to email me scott@scottsigler.net if you have applicable experience, or know someone who would help.

MANDARIN FLUENCY:
I need someone to give me some translations from English to Mandarin. Looking for a native speaker

CBRN MILITARY TRAINING / KNOWLEDGE:
Looking for info on what elite units specialize in CBRN operations. Primarily, first-responders, combat troops sent into biological hazard zones. In short, who gets the funny suit and the guns when it's time to go into a hot zone? 

COW EXPERIENCE:
Holsteins feature prominently in ANCESTOR. I want to make sure I have the details right and I'm not missing anything that would compromise the book. Raised cattle? Worked on a diary farm? Let me know.

HELICOPTER PILOT / EXPERIENCE:
Anyone ever fly a Bell 427? Anything close to that?

CANADIAN ARMED FORCES VETERAN:
I'm sure it's similiar to experience in the US Armed Forces, but would like to get the personality and tone of Canadian vets.

DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
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The Irishman from Ohio
The Irishman from Ohio
Scott
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Need a proof-reader in this regard.
PerfectDayForDying
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Who gets the funny suit and a gun? Well that kinda depends on the situation. In a typical field combat environment every soldier has a MOPP suit (Mission Oriented Protective Posture). Typically for ground operations one would send in an infantry unit to secure the area after an aerial recon. You'd have a bunch of guys going around in protective masks, thick rubber gloves and lace-on boot covers, and a suit with layers of charcoal-impregnated cloth to keep out the nasty stuff. The military MOPP suit, while not as fancy as the CDC suits that utilize positive pressure, are much more suited to a foeld or combat environment. They are easier to move in, more durable, and small tears and holes can be repaired quickly with little more than duct-type tape.

I don't know that there are any "elite" units that specialize in CBRN (we used to call it NBC when I was enlisted 15 years ago), aside from the teams that you see in "Outbreak" and "The Andromeda Strain." Those teams are "elite" strictly in the intellectual sense. I imagine that you're talking about "elite" as in "I could kill you with a napkin." Gren Berets, Rangers, SEALS, Delta, etc are all trained to operate in chem and rad environments, but as far as I know there's really no such thing as a team of professional shooters that specialize in CBRN environments, mainly because if things are that nasty wherever they are going, its unlikely anyone will be left alive to shoot anyway. Basically, nobody really expects resistance in an area that has been irradiated or chemically doused.

If you're going for maximum realism, don't make it out like your shooters are also experts on all aspects of CBRN, because they wouldn't be. They might, however, have a CBRN Specialist tagging along. This person would be a trained soldier who knows how to take orders and return fire, but would not be anywhere near the level of combat skill of your shooters.

Anything else you need to know? :)

I am crazier than a padded room full of Charlie Mansons! Sgt. Renee Jordan PUMC, PUV James Keeling
Mycroft
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  • Yes, I know a person who knows about COWS - go figure! 
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  • PerfectDayForDying
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    Just something I noticed that kinda stuck out. Its about some of the firearms. In one story you described an Uzi running dry and going "click click click" on empty.

    Uhh... no Smile

    Y'see, an Uzi is an open-bolt weapon. That means that it uses a fixed firing pin situated at the back of the bolt. When you cock the weapon, you are pulling the whole bolt back and locking it where it stays until the trigger is squeezed (squeeze, never pull). When fired, the bolt comes forward, strips a round off the clip, chambers it, and the weight of the entire bolt is transfered into the fixed firing pin. When the round fires, the bolt is returned to the open position. Rinse and repeat.

    When an Uzi runs out of bullets.. err, I mean Happy Pills! Yeah, Happy Pills. Anyway, when it runs out, it doesn't go "click click click." It doesn't really make any noise because the bolt is locked back by the empty mag. There's no "click" of a hammer falling thought, because an open-bolt weapon doesn't have one.

    A closed-bolt weapon like an M4 DOES have a hammer. When you chamber a round, the bolt is completely closed, but the firing pin is "floating" instead of "fixed." It has some wiggle room so it wont strike the primer until the trigger is squeezed, which causes an internal hammer to snap forward on the opposite end of the pin.

    The trade-off. Open-bolt weapons are low-maintainence, high reliability weapons. Closed bolt weapons have more little moving parts so take more maintainence. However, since they have only a small hammer in a balanced position moving forward when the trigger is squeezed, instead of several ounces to a pound of steel bolt flying forward to upset your aim, closed-bolt weapons tend to be far more accurate, especially at long ranges.

    Other open-bolt weapons:

    MAC-10

    M-60

    AK47 / AK74 / AKMS (Ole Antonin was a big fan of the open-bolt)

    M2 .50cal

    FN M249 SAW

    Closed-bolt:

    M16 / M4

    All H&K's

    P90

    Almost all semi-auto pistols.

    I know, its weird that a chick knows this much about guns. Well, maybe not so weird around here ;)

    I am crazier than a padded room full of Charlie Mansons! Sgt. Renee Jordan PUMC, PUV James Keeling
    DragonRiderOfPernEatenByAncestors
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    there HAS to a line fighting men brawling to get to meet you.

    The Irishman from Ohio

    The Irishman from Ohio
    PerfectDayForDying
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    ...most guys seem a little imtimidated by it. I can't help it. I was an Army brat, then enlisted right out of high school & did six years. I literally grew up around guns and shit that goes boom.

    Seriously, my dad used to store C4 in our garage after training if he didn't feel like taking it back to the armory that night. At least that's what I was told. I dunno, he coulda been selling that stuff. I can think of a few creative uses for a pound of C4 and some radio transmitter detonators. I could get everything I need to make them at the Radio Shack down the street.

    Aaand there I go again Smile

    I'm not really that dangerous, just keep me away from knives and explosives. And chocolate. And Ben & Jerry's Chunky Monkey. I loooves me some Chunky Monkey.

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    I_AM---
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    still a need there?

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    Gmork
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    "elite" as in "I could kill you with a napkin."

    Now that is bad ass...in a Jason Bourne kinda way!

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    PerfectDayForDying
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    ...that I was a 74D (CBRN Specialist) in the Army. Airborne too. Yeah, I'm kinda crazy like that, what with the jumping out of the planes and the hitting the ground & all. I was stationed at Ft. Bragg for three years in the 82nd. Lets see, there's JSOC, Delta, Special Forces Headquarters and training Brigade, plus Division and 18th Airborne Corps LRPS.

    Yeah, I've known a few of "those" kind of elite guys. I actually dated one for a while, but he was way too hyper for me.

    I am crazier than a padded room full of Charlie Mansons! Sgt. Renee Jordan PUMC, PUV James Keeling
    Mycroft
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  • I took a cow information dump on your inbox, remember to wear boots when opening it...... 
  • Sergeant and Fire Team Leader, X-ray company, DOMREC.  And now a pusher too!
  • Sergeant and Fire Team Leader, X-ray company, DOMREC.
  • Finaldrive
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    I know a guy that has "Cow Experience", but I don't think its they type you're looking for.....

    Really wish I could help!!

     

    "He'd obviously made the turn and was hurtling down that final straight away to the void.  His membership in the sentient being club permanently revoked."


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    Scott
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    I tried sending you email from within the system, but no answer. PerfectDayForDying, email your FDO™ scott@scottsigler.net. 
    JP
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    Just e-mailed you about helos.

     

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    Gmork
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    That's right, PerfectDayForDying...

    Make the FDO beg! Make him want the way we do when we wait for our next fix of Junkie goodness!! >:^)

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    JP
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    Gmork, she could kill us with the thin plastic wrapping that napkins come in! PerfectDayForDying just might be a GirlCo candidate...

     

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    MuchAdo
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    Scott I work with several people who are from China and speak Mandarin.  They said they could help you.  Shoot me an email or PM if you still need help.

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    Gmork
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    She could suffocate us using Saran Wrap!

    Although I'm really interested to see what kind of damage can be done using a spork :)

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    PerfectDayForDying
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    The discerning assassin always chooses the finest tools...

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/8ace/

     

    Just run the plays I call, Barnes!

    I am crazier than a padded room full of Charlie Mansons! Sgt. Renee Jordan PUMC, PUV James Keeling
    PerfectDayForDying
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    I was going to hold out until Contagous #24, but I caved last night. The power of the FDO simply cannot be resisted :) 

    Just run the plays I call, Barnes!

    I am crazier than a padded room full of Charlie Mansons! Sgt. Renee Jordan PUMC, PUV James Keeling
    WildSeven
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    I HAVE THAT SPORK IN MY KITCHEN!!! Also, all that stuff you wrote is really really really REALLY cool! Now i feel like a lazy bastard! Meh...

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    Magneto: "Really? A lightning strike in a giant copper conductor? I thought you lived in a school.

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    Ganderboy
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    FDO;

    Just finished this one on Sunday night, and a couple of things kinda stuck in my mind as wrong.

     

    First, to keep 50 cows in the high arctic for any length of time would require tons of food daily. Since cows are stupid (they can't dig through snow to get at the grass, or eat snow for the water) they have to be fed and watered. Lets say a cow eats 50lbs of hay a day (one bale) and drinks 20 gallons of water. Thats 2500lbs of hay and 1000g of water. Since Baffin Island is kinda cold and doesn't have grasses and fresh water streams, that food and water would have to be flown or shipped in. Kinda hard to do in the winter up there as the ocean freezes and not a lot of planes like cold weather flying. Plus, if you use holseins, dairy cows, they have to be milked twice a day each time giving off 2-3 gallons of milk. You might have to add some farmers to take care of the animals and make the staff so tired of drinking milk that they will never want to see it again. Or maybe move the opperation further south, to more populated areas, like northern Alberta. Change the cows to beef cows and no one would be the wiser. Hide in plain sight as they say.

     

    Second, the Canadian military is a well trained, under equiped peace keeping force. We pride ourselvs as being the ones to go into world hot spots and try and keep the peace under the UN Flag. The kinda guy that Magnus is would not be coming out of our system. Canadian special forces are almost nonexistant. But if he had joined a foreign army, US, Isralie or even British, that would be more plausable.

     

    Third, when Magnus enters the mine looking for the girls and to get away from the baby cows, you say he is running on frozen ground in the mine. Since Lake Superior isn't in the area where permfrost is, the ground in the mine would not be frozen, even if it was -50 outside.

     

    Fourth,  snow and ice don't mix. If the fresh water is starting to freeze and a bunch of snow falls on it then the snow will act as insulation and the ice won't get thicker as fast. You may need to alternate cold spells and snow storms.

     

     Keep up the good work. 

    Can't wait for more.

    Kevinesque
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    For a grand total of about 10-15 years on and off.  Ping me if you have specific questions or still need opinions.  I had some comments but I don't want to spam if Mycroft or someone else has already covered sufficiently.
    billy_tal3nt3d
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     You say Awesomesauce too!? I've only ever met 1 othewr person who said that, and that's the person I picked it up from! Haha

     

     

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    JP
    Re: FDO™ needs research help for ANCESTOR
    who began the use of "awesome sauce." Gmork is a goddess. You're lucky she didn't fang you, toast you, and terminate your little self. (The rest of you note: there are definitely privileges to being an OJ...)

     

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